Peter Nyikos takes on abiogenesis:

Me:

You realize you’re DP crap has no merit, right? You’re just pulling this out of your ass; abiogenesis is a fast moving field and we have evidence that life originated on Earth. DP has no evidence, even Sagan retracted his DP bullshit.

The oldest evidence of life is 3.48 g.y.o. in rocks found from West Australia, that alone is evidence of abiogenesis.

Tell me how you arrived to your estimations, (most plausible explanation is that you pulled it of your ass).

Me:

Listen Nyikos, I`m going to be nice here and point out that DP would cause bankruptcy to that civilization; what “economic power” would even bother sending life to other planets when it has no potential gains?

Nyikos:

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> You realize you’re DP crap has no merit, right?
Why don’t you read my FAQ draft before uttering proclamations like this?

urls on request.

Nyikos:

I see you didn’t read the FAQ draft.

B5. What about the astronomical expenses of a panspermia project?

REPLY: The expenses would be spread out over thousands, perhaps millions of years in the sort of project that Crick and Orgel had in mind. The
project might grow out of a long project of simply exploring the
planets of other stars with instrumental probes, and during that time
the panspermists could be expected to mine a great many asteroids or
moons of their own “solar” system, greatly expanding the resources at
their disposal.

Lately there has been renewed interest even by private companies in travel to, and exploitation of our own asteroids.

The panspermia project can be expected to start only after hundreds of
very likely candidates for abiogenesis were found, and no life found
on any of them, giving ample time for these other endeavors to mature.

More at:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!original/talk.origins/bcWYrv-0cI8/KZgmxbWFjHQJ

There are four other sections of the FAQ. Would you like to see urls for more?

> what “economic power” would even bother sending life to other planets when it has no potential gains?
The potential “economics-is-everything theory of history” gains are the employment of millions of people who might otherwise be a drag on the economy. Did you know that it was NOT the “New Deal,” but WWII, that brought us out of the depression?

Did you know that farmers destroyed lots of foodstuffs, such as milk, during the Great Depression just to keep prices high?

Me:

“There is plenty of evidence in stromatolite fossils easily twice that age. How do you discount it?”

I know, I meant 3.8 g.y.o. Typo.

“I see no rebuttal, just some TbBA. Inaccurate, at that.”

Inaccurate? Sagan did retract his claims on DP, which you WON’T DO. You’re saying that all the experimental evidence for abiogenesis is wrong? You’d rather stick to a speculative hypothesis with no observational or experimental support to science?

“Why don’t you read my FAQ draft before uttering proclamations like this?

urls on request.”

I did, and you got your ass kicked. I do regret spamming, but it’s irreversible anyways.

Me:

“The potential “economics-is-everything theory of history” gains are the employment of millions of people who might otherwise be a drag on the economy. Did you know that it was NOT the “New Deal,” but WWII, that brought us out of the depression?

Did you know that farmers destroyed lots of foodstuffs, such as milk, during the Great Depression just to keep prices high?”

I was born during the Depression, remember me saying that on t.o.?

“I see you didn’t read the FAQ draft.

B5. What about the astronomical expenses of a panspermia project?”

Another claim you pulled out of your ass.

“REPLY: The expenses would be spread out over thousands, perhaps millions of years in the sort of project that Crick and Orgel had in mind. The
project might grow out of a long project of simply exploring the
planets of other stars with instrumental probes, and during that time
the panspermists could be expected to mine a great many asteroids or
moons of their own “solar” system, greatly expanding the resources at
their disposal.”

Then, answer this: What would the potential economic benefits be?